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Well I took my little mano out today. Seeing as hes a little to young to hold, thought i might let him crawl around on my hands, and anyway I noticed that he
had a lot of skin folds. Does this happen when they are close to shedding, because hes due for it and I believe he went opaque a couple days ago( cant be sure
though)... He was also pushing his snout against m nahd, like a snake trying to begin its shed. I put him back, incase thats what hes doing. Should I be
worried? Could he be dehydrated?
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Looks like either dehydration or it's about to shed. Mine get wrinkled when they are approaching shed time. I have a sneaky feeling the yours will shed.
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I would say it's looking like shed time. How is the humidity in it's cage? If you haven't sprayed it down regularly, you may be in for a
difficult shed. If it tries to shed and doesn't get it all off, you will have to try soaking in a wet (but no standing water) container with paper towels
to help get it off. Let us know if the shed doesn't come off completely and we can walk you through the process of soaking.
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Maelstrom |
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Thanks guys! Hopefully he sheds tonight. For the past few days I've been spraying it down pretty well because I was pretty sure he dulled up a bit, and
before that spraying about every day, so I hope this goes without any hitches.
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Well, got home today, and he looks even worse. LAst night I was checking on him frequently and he was very active. He deficated, but I see no signs of areas
where skin has come off or is starting to. When he breathes, I can sometimes hear the clicking noise that my Carpet sometimes makes when hes starting to shed,
so I assume its just his skin. Should I just wait another night, or start to soak him? Should I follow the procedure outlined in the complete chondro?
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Maelstrom |
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Guess I should just wait some more?...
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I'd just wait. It's not unusual to hear weird clicking noises and such before shed. It makes me crazy cuz I think it's an R.I.
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My columbian/argentine cross had an RI that sounded like wheezing and crackeling and had to inject some crap every day for 1 week and it cleared up. if it
doesn't stop after the head is shed I would get it checked out.
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Maelstrom |
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Ok guys, he hasnt shed yet. I think im going to have to soak him or whatever needs to be done. I just cant believe that wasnt able to shed off anything... I know that my humidity wasnt that bad... Is it possible that there just isnt anything for him to start shedding
on? Should I ass something to his cage in the future?
Anyway, what do you guys recommend I do as far as soaking and getting that shed off? Just follow The Complete Chondro? |
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Maelstrom |
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Ok guys, he hasnt shed yet. I think im going to have to soak him or whatever needs to be done. I just cant believe that wasnt able to shed off
anything... I know that my humidity wasnt that bad... Is it possible that there just isnt anything for him to start shedding on? Should I add
something to his cage in the future?
Anyway, what do you guys recommend I do as far as soaking and getting that shed off? Just follow The Complete Chondro? |
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Something that I've done with little cuties, rather than soak them is soak two paper towels in warm water, and then drape them over the snake as it is
perched. Ususally the snake will stay under the paper towels for a few hours, and then as they get active and move around underneath them, and start to crawl
out, it helps a great deal. I had a little one that did not shed completely, did that mid-day and in the morning it had finished with the shed.
Kim "Wow, that is a hot snake, I would definitely hit that."
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I have a chondro that rarely sheds himself. Rarely. I think once on his own, and it's been a year.
Below is a reprint of my photographic journey of shedding a chondro. I'm not sure if yours is in the same situation, but this is what I have to do every month or so. ===================================================================== I have one baby chondro who doesn't know how to shed. No matter the humidity, he simply will NOT do it on its own. This shed here is probably a couple of weeks old on him, and he's getting all crinkly. So it's time for Dr. Florian's "How to Shed A Baby Chondro, Part 1" Step One: Find a Chondro That Needs Shed
This might be more difficult than you'd expect. Most of them will at least shed the snout. Or the full head. But rarely will they just skip it. This guy here is prime. Note the wrinkly skin. It's time to party. Step Two: Try to Peel Back The Lips
If the skin is moist enough, use your thumb to peel back the lip. This guy was kept exceptionally humid prior to the shoot, but still not enough. The skin was NOT peeling off effortlessly enough, so back in the tub he goes. Step Three: Forced Hydration
What I've done here is to make a Chondro Mummy of sorts. Take one paper towel, get it wet, and envelop the Chondro in it so he can't get out. I'll typically leave a "pocket" in there for him so he can crawl around, but make sure it can't escape. This guy, I left in for about 6 hours to cook. Step Four: Check on Your Snake
I checked numerous times to make sure he was okay. After a while, unwrap your Egyptian soldier for duty. Step Five: Your Arsenal
You will need a Chondro, a Water Bottle, and some sort of refreshment. Tonight I'm slummin with Goose Island Honkers Ale, a nice mellow ale from Chicago. Tweezers optional, but I couldn't find mine. Step Six: Peel!
I simply use my thumb and fingers to peel the skin back. It should come off pretty easily at this point. If you are tearing it frequently, give the snake another wrapping, and wait a while. You don't want this to be piece by piece, you want to get it to peel, and continue to peel off. Watch the eyecaps, make sure they come off. At this point, the eyecaps should come off with the rest of the snout. Step Seven: A Job Well Done!!
If everything went well, you should have the top of the head off. Through all of the working with this animal, the bottom has started to fall apart from the sides. This is a good thing. Step Eight: Peel the Bottom!!
Do the same thing with the bottom, it should come back relatively easy. Step Nine: Onto the Neck!!
The neck is a very difficult area, especially if you have a bitey angry chondro. If you can get them to squirm forward, use that pressure to your advantage. But most likely they will be backing up. Try with your thumb to roll the skin back on one side, and then repeat with the other side. Once you're past the neck, reverse your grip so that the snakes head is facing your palm. This will give you more room to roll back the rest of the body. Step Ten: Spot Check
Check out the Chondro to make sure that you didn't miss any spots. This is where tweezers come in handy. Check the heat pits, around the cloaca, nose plugs, and make sure you got it all. Be careful with those tight areas, but pluck them if you can. Step Eleven: Feed!!
When it's all said and done, your chondro will be hungry. I would suggest waiting a day as this is HORRIBLY stressful for both keeper and kept. But if you feel the urge, offer them a little snake scented human: They go crazy for that stuff. Enjoy!
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GTPfan |
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Aaron, I remember that post from before, but thanks for the refresher course! All kidding aside, that really is a well done photo essay of "assist
shedding".
I have had to assist a baby or two before when sheds didn't go so well for them. It's a delicate balance to help without hurting. I hope it works out for you Maelstrom.
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haha! great pics and step by step photo instructions! just when i think i have have too much time on my hands....u appear!
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Maelstrom |
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Thank you VERY much Kim and Aaron. Ive been really worried. I got off of work on break so I ould try kims idea first, and hopefully I dont have to resort to
manually peeling him. Hes very calm( I dare say friendly) so hopefully he will be a little easier for me!
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Aaron, I love the blow-by-blow! Very helpful for us rookies! However, I prefer Amber Bock! Thanks, good luck Maelstrom!
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Maelstrom |
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WEll, I have started to soak him, but I came across an issue
At 7 months of age, paper towels are no match for him :/ I guess i am just going to keep placing the towels on him periodically ... |
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Maelstrom |
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This aint workin out... I just cant get his snout wet enough to peel off the skin... He is definately less wrinkled... I still have him in the tub, so maybe
just more time will do it. Any tips?
Tape? Ive heard olive oil or somthing like that gets sheds off...
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Meal, above all, remember this is not a crisis... you could let him go until his next shed and he'd prolly be fine. So don't rush or feel like
you're pressured.
Are you sure there's a shed to be removed? The hardest ones for me to remove were the ones that weren't .. uh... there. Try an area of his body thats fairly hydrated. Rub it with a dry thumb, see if there is actually skin there to peel. The pictures above look like a dehydrated snake, that may or may not have a shed on it. In my second picture, you can see how the snake is kinda "glossy"... in your photos, it looks like a matte finish, but from pictures, it's impossible for me to tell. If it's not coming off, it might not be there. NO TAPE! EVER! I haven't used olive oil, so can't give any advice on that one.
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Maelstrom |
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Im really glad to hear that its not a crisis. Puts me at ease...
Im pretty sure that he has a shed. First off, his skin is slightly glossy, kind of sticky/grippy. His nostrils are also semi-clogged with( im 99% sure) skin and you can hear clicking noises sometimes when he breathes. He was exhibiting shedding actions, trying to rub his nose on stuff, becoming very active, and as you saw, became very wrinkled. I also beieve i saw that he might have gone opaque, but Im not 100% sure.... I think I am going to just wait for his next shed, assuming that he did actually have a stuck shed. Im not sure I feel comfortable doing this, expecially with how difficult it is to get off. I held off on feeding him for this, so I assume I should feed him tomorrow so he can get a rest. |
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Maelstrom |
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Im really glad to hear that its not a crisis. Puts me at ease...
Im pretty sure that he has a shed. First off, his skin is slightly glossy, kind of sticky/grippy. His nostrils are also semi-clogged with( im 99% sure) skin and you can hear clicking noises sometimes when he breathes. He was exhibiting shedding actions, trying to rub his nose on stuff, becoming very active, and as you saw, became very wrinkled. I also beieve i saw that he might have gone opaque, but Im not 100% sure.... I think I am going to just wait for his next shed, assuming that he did actually have a stuck shed. Im not sure I feel comfortable doing this, expecially with how difficult it is to get off. I held off on feeding him for this, so I assume I should feed him tomorrow so he can get a rest. |
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