Anyway since no post is complete without pictures here are a few of sire,dam, and neo's
Sire GM.04.57
Dam DR.02.01 (farmed)
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tupperwarezoo |
Man getting neos started is tough |
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So I had three eggs hatch, March 3rd, from a clutch of 12. I likely should have been more careful when trying to boost humidity outside of the nest box, as
the eggs appeared to have gotten wet most had fully formed neo's just starting to develop pigment. Any way I am still stoked about the 3 that made it.
I'm just having trouble with the feeding 5 weeks later and one of them won't even strike. The other two have been strikers from the start but always
release. Last night I finally got one to wrap but after a couple of minutes he released. I haven't tried scenting yet as I am getting strikes but looking
down the road when do you guys start scenting? worrying? force feeding?
Anyway since no post is complete without pictures here are a few of sire,dam, and neo's Sire GM.04.57
Dam DR.02.01 (farmed)
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I assume you're going to get a bunch of different opinions on this, but here is mine.
At 5 weeks, I would start scenting. And if that didn't do the trick, I would get heads in the 2 that are striking. This should be easy if they're striking. And I would consider assisting the third non striker a pink head. I would do all this after a session of trying to get them to feed with normal procedures. Good luck
Paul August
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KEVIN KOPF |
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Are you feeding day or night time? I have had better luck during the day time.
call me if you like and i can tell you a few things that have helped me. 352 5147945 kevin |
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tupperwarezoo |
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Paul, when you say get heads in the two that are striking do you mean to offer heads instead of the whole pink. Or is there some trick to this. Kevin, my
attempts have been at night 8-10ish, lights out is typically at 7:30. I was planning my next attempt early morning.
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GTPfan |
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TZ, I have a couple suggestions.
1. Feeding heads to the ones that are striking is just that, offering the heads only. Just pinch off a head and use tweezers or sm. tongs to hold the head near the back. When the neo strikes, the head should get stuck in its teeth, becoming too lodged in to be dropped, and the neo must swallow it. The "trick" that I learned is that if the pink's nose is pinted down the throat of the neo, they tend to do better taking it. You can feed heads to these guys every 4 days or so. You can try scenting before or after heads are offered. "Whatever works to get these guys fed" is my motto. 2. I would definitely try feeding different times of day. I feed my entire collection at lights out, but most of the non-feeding neos I had last year did better feeding during daylight hours. Try in the morning at lights on, try at mid-day, and try just before lights out. I bet you will find a better time of day that works for these guys. One last thing, I did better attempting new techniques for very brief stints of time. I would only work with one neo for a few minutes, then go to the next one. It would often be 20-30min or more before returning to one to try again. I didn't work with one for more than 5-10min at a time. I found that if I got fatigued, then my chances of success were lower. My sessions for the non-feeders were only about an hour long. I think I had 5 that were stubborn. I had one that eventually needed to be assist fed. I'm not sure it's physically possible to force feed these guys, they are just too small. Hope these tips help. Best of luck and keep us informed of your progress.
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Paul August |
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Personally, I would try a normal pink. After a period of "strikes and drops", I cut off the head. I offer it on a probe or small forcepts. If the
animal strikes the head should be caught in thier mouth. Unable to dislodge it, it will be swallowed, trust me. The non-striker might have to be forced the
head. This sucks, but I have raised animals past this to breeding size. They figure it out sooner than later, you're just trying to make sure they make it
to later!!!
My most recent difficult feeder took a head on the first defensive strike. Since it has taken 2 pinks. I always try pinks to exaustion before going to heads or assisting. Also, I'll try chick scenting on the second attempt, usually with success. You're past the second attempt but it might do the trick. Lastly, the "Head Idea" is not mine but stolen from super Tim Morris. Not trying to take credit. Good luck!!
Paul August
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tupperwarezoo |
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Many thanks. Not out of the woods by any means but the strikers did manage to get the heads stuck enough to swallow. I guess I had noticed before that one of
them used the pinky body to get leverage when trying to expel a stuck pinky. Once that was out of the way I assisted the non-striker. Thanks for the tips.
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Daniel Scroggins |
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Firstly, best of luck to you. Secondly, I second the means that you've just tried and succeeded with. Thirdly, those are HOT!
Daniel Scroggins
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