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 Nick Lumb |
Never keep baby chondros together.......... |
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Posts: 94 (02/08/07 04:48:39)
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You spend weeks and months getting your clutch to feed, and then they go and do this. Bastards.
 The victor of this battle may die also. At that stage, both animals will indeed be available for $25ea. Regards Nick |
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Marcial |
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Posts: 1725 (02/08/07 05:54:06)
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I recall that this happened to someone else a few years ago... I would suggest trying to make that one regurge. The victor in the last thread ended up dying too.
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com |
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Shiloh Hawkesworth |
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Posts: 1684 (02/08/07 06:14:38)
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I recal that as well Marcial...
Shiloh Hawkesworth
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aaron florian |
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Posts: 2826 (02/08/07 06:17:50)
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Nick, I'm really sorry about that.. that sucks.
By sharing this with everyone, you very well may have saved a baby chondro down the road through your post. Thanks for sharing. |
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slippery42 |
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Posts: 135 (02/08/07 06:21:56)
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nick,
thats bad news, real sorry graeme |
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Mike Rico |
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Posts: 1253 (02/08/07 06:30:29)
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bummer Nick, I agree with Marcial you be able to save the "victor"
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Nick Lumb |
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Posts: 94 (02/08/07 07:02:48)
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Thanks Gents.
Marcial's suggestion sounds like a plan. I'll go and give him a good shake (the snake, not Marcial). It's also a shame for the poor bloke who was looking forward to picking up his new chondros! I'll let you know how things turn out, but I expect the worse. Nick |
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RCulver |
64 oz Prime Rib | |||
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Posts: 1452 (02/08/07 08:01:57)
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Yeah--not a good idea. The person who posted this awhile back was Dave P. of California. It was his first clutch and he had an early "aggressive" feeder that made a glutton of itself. As Marcial mentioned, the victor ended up a little too portly and didn't make it thru the next few days.
Rich C PS...anyone get the title of this post? 
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Only Chondro |
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Posts: 676 (02/08/07 11:00:56)
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I hope for you he wont trow up.
Can die on it keep him not to warm so he wont blow up to much OC |
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john E blue |
too full | |||
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Posts: 1100 (02/08/07 11:53:02)
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The only experience I can draw upon is the mentioned Dave P.'s experience and it went badly left alone. So I rec. the regurge. It is just too much to digest when the prey is almost exactly the same size and length as the victor.
Let us know the outcome of whatever decsion you make. Thanks.--jb info@blueregion.com www.chondrocoalition.com
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greg schroeder |
Re: too full | |||
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Posts: 4598 (02/08/07 13:35:51)
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Yes, Dave Patchen had this happen while housing his together as well. His regurged on its own and died. That wasn't the first report of this. All the way back in 1976 Sedgewick County Zoo had its first captive bred clutch. February following, as written by Peter Gray, "the yellow hatchling overcame and ingested one of the red hatchlings. The yellow hatchling died the following day after failing to completely regurgitate."
I would think the initial thought is get that huge meal out of the snake and try to save it, but my guess is what damage could occur has already been done. A tear in the stomach lining would likely be the culprit of a death. We already have confirmation of at least three that died after regurge, so why push it? Just my opinion of chance. I'd put that snake alone and not touch it and hope for the best. Stimulating a regurge very well could cause a tear in the stomach lining on the way out even if it didn't already happen on the way in. |
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Nick Lumb |
Re: too full | |||
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Posts: 94 (02/08/07 13:41:29)
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Apart from stamping on it's head, I've abused this snake in every way possible, and he still won't give it up. It's bedtime now, so we'll see in the morning.
For your info, this didn't happen directly after feeding, but 6 days later, when he obviously got a bit peckish overnight. Incidently, here is the loser, in happier, more uncomplicated times:  Nick |
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ChondroKeepers |
Re: too full | |||
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Posts: 996 (02/08/07 13:43:52)
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I'll give you 37.50 for them (before the regurge, of course).... That really sucks...Good luck with the survivor. Let us know how it turns out! |
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dhaisten |
Vote no | |||
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Posts: 661 (02/08/07 14:24:03)
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I am siding with Greg on this one. I vote no for the regurge.
If snakes died from regurging then a logical choice would be to not have it regurge. Kingsnakes eat other snakes all the time. Not to say that a chondro is adapted to osiphageous activity like lampropeltis-assuming that lampropeltis even has been shown to have osiphageous adaptations aside from resistance to venoms from North American venomous snakes. |
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Robert Hill |
Re: Vote no | |||
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Posts: 950 (02/08/07 16:40:30)
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I would also vote no on the regurge. As rough on his digestive system as it is, I think a forced regurge could make things worse.
No matter what, best of luck! |
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aaron florian |
Re: Vote no | |||
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Posts: 2826 (02/08/07 19:41:47)
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Quote:now THAT is interesting.. |
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Marc van Eijnsbergen |
SOrry man | |||
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Posts: 911 (02/09/07 04:06:58)
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Sorry to hear that Nick! That must have been a stomach turner...
Thanks for sharing the experiences with us so noone will make this mistake this again soon. |
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Nick Lumb |
Mr Creosote | |||
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Posts: 94 (02/09/07 07:08:20)
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Marc - I told you I was confident I would get them feeding! Today, Mr Creosote is perched. Let's hope he doesn't go the way of his namesake:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk Cheers Nick |
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Only Chondro |
Re: Mr Creosote | |||
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Posts: 676 (02/09/07 10:47:18)
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Strange reaction,you almost blame him as he know what he,s done.
It,s an animal man,your to blame! OC |
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Nick Lumb |
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Posts: 94 (02/09/07 12:12:12)
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It was a light hearted joke under the circumstances. Rest assured, I will never do it again.
Nick |
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Only Chondro |
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Posts: 676 (02/09/07 12:21:04)
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I see,
humor difference of understanding between to nations, that must be it. OC |
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