So I was lucky enough to get a hold of that HY aru x biak cross for sale(SWEET), I have had some aggressive snakes before but nothing like this. To all the
guru's out there is there anything that can possibly make or help him become less aggressive? Or is this one of those things when I should just get some
gloves and just get ready to get tagged? I have been bit one time by a 7ft burm, and countless times by ETB's. Ill do my best to get some shots of him
his girlfriend and the other happy couple.
                        
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Posts: 414 (07/15/08 20:31:54)
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I support single Moms. $1 at a time! |
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Posts: 9 (07/16/08 04:24:32) |
Ill have pics up by the end of the day...assuming I can figure out how to download them to my computer and post them here. I'll just say it before hand
I'm new to the whole gtp world so please go easy on my pics and snakes lol.
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Posts: 17 (07/16/08 09:16:59) |
I heard some people put a piece of worn clothing (ex: shirt) in the cage for a while so they get used to your scent. Never tried it though
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GtP85 |
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Posts: 10 (07/16/08 13:45:27) |
I heard that to but have never tried it. Something tells me that I'm going to just go out buy some gloves man up and take it like a man(screams and all).
Well as said this thread is worthless without pics so here goes....Some of them have flash and so don't here is my little 2.2 group
These are the OS HY x Canary ladies 
Here are the males, the yellower of the 2 is the HY aru x biak cross I picked up last night. He is the topic of discussion the angry little @$$ lol 
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Posts: 345 (07/16/08 23:28:53)
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My first scrub python, a nice albeit rough aru was a handful. By handful I mean demon spawn. After months of blood letting he finally calmed down to the
point where I could handle him routinely with out issue. I would just let him bite until he stopped, and it seemed to work. I wish I had pictures of my arms
from back then. After that and a few of the bites from my 10 to 12 foot scrubs, green tree bites don't really phase me. I personally wouldn't bother
with gloves unless you're a hand model
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ITsBUDLUV |
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Posts: 60 (07/17/08 01:22:59) |
First off, I'm totally against wearing gloves, but latex gloves( lol
 ), take it like a man, getting tagged is a baptism in the chondro world second just handle him, once he gets use to you he'll calm down, when
he's done laughing at the latex.
Buddy
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Posts: 16 (07/17/08 01:45:59) |
I do have to agree with the other Buddy on the forum. LATEX GLOVES ARE REE-@%%%-U-LOUS !!!!
  
Man up and just take it. Bites don't hurt that long and your snake will respect your more in the long run. They will get tired of the taste of your blood after a while. He is definately worth taking a bite from. In the infamous words of John Romano,"That is a hot snake I would hit that". Good luck with him. Sean Taylor |
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GtP85 |
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Posts: 12 (07/17/08 03:48:00) |
LMAO forgot to explain the gloves lmao. They are not latex I never wear gloves when I handle my snakes I was about to go outside and work on my car so I had
put the gloves on right after cage leaning. I had a friend over and they wanted to take a few shots of the snakes so I just left the gloves on and took a few.
Those are vinyl, dunno if anyone works on cars but its a WHOLE lot easier to wear some sort of rubber glove when working on a cylinder head. Thanks for the
advice, guess I'll just take my bites like a man. As far as him worth taking a bite from...if he gives me some good looking babies in about a year sure
right now not so sure lol
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Posts: 141 (07/17/08 13:28:55) |
No worries on the gloves- don't be embarrassed. It really has nothing to do with being afraid to take a bite.
A <1/8" glove is obviously not going to prevent any teeth from penetrating your skin, but will absolutely block out your scent and also have a lower surface temp than a warm hand. The goal of doing that would be to get them used to your hands working in the cage (without triggering the feeding response) and then getting to a point where it doesnt matter if you where the gloves. |
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GtP85 |
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Posts: 13 (07/17/08 19:13:33) |
LOL there is no shame, I really was about to work on my car. Put in some cams that did not go as planned but eh. He is jumpy in the morning afternoon night
all day long. Because of his color and what he is crossed with that along I will suffer the bites or jst get some gloves for him and him alone. In about 18
months to 2 years I hope to put him with one of my girls and I hope he can turn that anger into some good breeding energy lol.
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MegF42 |
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Posts: 2036 (07/18/08 03:12:29)
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I use gloves to remove some of my bitier chondros and amazons from the cage. It's a lot better to have them bite smooth leather than my hand. Tempest
tagged me the other night when I stupidly stuck my hand in there to remove her shed....DINNER!!! Yum!!! Broke a blood vessel in my finger and I bled like a
stuck pig, not to mention the bruise and swollen finger. Nothing wrong with wearing gloves in my opinion. I find the snakes are a lot less apt to bite when you
wear them anyway.
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cleve360 |
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Posts: 765 (07/18/08 04:19:39)
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In my experience, gloves are an essential tool for taming down aggressive snakes. I use welders gloves that go half way up the arm, and they provide a surface
for the snake that isn't obviously that of a large mammal. So, you can get them out of the cage and being handled with less fear and defensiveness on their
part, because they think they are coiling on an inanimate object, and not coiling on a threat.
The primary reason is not to avoid getting tagged, it is to reduce the snake's nervousness. Furthermore, I think some snakes can "feel" nervousness on the part of the handler, and react negatively. Gloves reduce that to a degree. Some snakes feel confidence and are more likely to "submit" to a confident handler. The more often you can have a handling session without biting, the better, so that the biting behavior is not reinforced. When undertaking a handling session, go super slow and deliberate, use gloves, and do everything possible to avoid the snake feeling threatened or defensive, and thus biting. Don't forget that cage defensiveness doesn't just happen when you are pulling them out, but also when they are going back in at the end of the session. Over time, slowly they calm down when they realize that there isn't a threat. Gloves help that at first, and then slowly you can transition away from gloves once they are already out of the cage, and then transition away from gloves entirely. Disclaimer: I haven't had very many adult GTPs that were aggressive - maybe 2 out of 40 or so. Most of the above is based on experience with large barneck amethystines. At 12' plus, the adults could tag you directly in the face whenever they wanted to, gloves or not, and so the gloves were just an acclimation tool, not for my protection. I just moved out of the office I rented where I kept my barnecks and returned it to the owners, and I had to have the carpet cleaned because of the bloodstains...good times :-) |
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Anerythristic.chondroforum |
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Posts: 85 (07/18/08 06:58:40) |
Gloves dude, gloves!! I don't wear gloves with chondros but they were essential in helping me tame down my white lips, scrubs and yellow annies. Don't
worry about the macho bravado crap.
If a snake is that aggressive that you need to post about it, gloves and a hook even, calm it down. You want to feel comfortable working with all your animals and not like a lion tamer going in with a chair every time you have to change out its water. |
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Ben Team |
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Posts: 989 (07/18/08 07:08:49)
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I think Cleve put it very well: The gloves help you feel comfortable, and ergo the snake feels more comfortable.
Having said that, I usually just don't worry about it, if a snake wants to be a dick, so be it. In terms of actual maintenance there aren't many times when I have to put my hands directly on them if I don't want too. When I clean cages of irritable animals, I just spray them first. What's with all the hate about the latex gloves? I wear them all the time, it makes very good sense to me (not to protect from a bite, but to keep your hands somewhat clean, little snakes seem to hate the taste, you don't smell like a predator or prey as much, etc. etc. etc.....) |
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GtP85 |
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Posts: 14 (07/18/08 08:06:49) |
I posted because I have had some aggressive snake, burm and numerous ETB's but this guy is a whole new ball game. The other chondros even at night the
lunge at me when i mist them down but as soon as they are out of the cage good a gold. This guy in the cage out the cage does not seem to matter to him. I
don't mind a snake that wants to be a dick but this is a whole new ball game to me. Like I said because of what he is crossed with and what I have I think
I might be able to get some pretty cook babies, not to mention he is a looker in person.
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Casey Clarke.chondroforum |
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Posts: 33 (07/19/08 12:58:52) |
Haha....My first chondro was a little Aru type I appropriately named 'Mr. Nipps' after his sex was determined for the same reason. I've always
heard that Aru's were the more docile of the bunch. Guess he was the exception. This little joker tagged me more times in the first month I had him than
all the various snakes I've had in my collection over the past two decades combined! He was determined to eat me. He'd go for everything--me, lights,
shadows, spray bottle, you name it. I watched him one time move on his perch and in doing so his tail dropped down rustling the paper towel lining his tub
below. He not only hit the paper towel, he proceeded on constricting it! He held it wrapped in a little ball for at least 3 mins. The funniest of all he'd
go after though, was the little red dot produced from the laser pointer on my Raytek temp gun. If I shot anywhere in his tub and he saw that red dot he
pounced. He follow it wherever you moved it! I don't know if he was chasing the red dot itself or if he was detecting a small heat signature from it.
Crazy! How good are chondro's eyesight?
Anyway, about the time his color started coming in he began settling down. Now going on roughly a year and a half old he's puppy dog tame and will let anyone hold him. He was definitely a handful though in the beginning! |
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Colorado Riverboy |
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Posts: 665 (07/19/08 13:17:11)
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Just to echo Casey. The two nastiest animals in my collection are a HW LTC aru, and a USCB aru, both adults now and I've had them for two years! So much
for stereotypes.
Jason Stevens
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GtP85 |
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Posts: 15 (07/19/08 20:59:46) |
WOW! I have heard the same thing about aru's. It crossed my mind that maybe its the biak blood in him that is causing all this anger. The other 3
chondros are mean at night but as soon as i pull the tubs out and pull them out they are like oh wow chill out man we where only kidding we weren't going
to really bite you kind of thing. I mean he has so much potential to give me some good stuff but of all the snakes I have ever owned he is by FAR the meanest.
From what everyone has said I hope he he calms down if not I have some gloves but regardless it would be nice to be able to handle such a beautiful animal. I
was told his color change is done so him calming down after that I think might be out of the question lol.
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