I saw a post a while back of a website where they sell 2 PVC cages for $180 or something similar. Does anyone know the site or another place where I can get some cheap, but reliable cages. Going to be picking up some more chondros soon. Thanks
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lilsoljha3 |
Where to buy good PVC cage? |
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Hi all,
I saw a post a while back of a website where they sell 2 PVC cages for $180 or something similar. Does anyone know the site or another place where I can get some cheap, but reliable cages. Going to be picking up some more chondros soon. Thanks |
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hugh wizzle |
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i have two of the pvc cages from herpcages.com and i love them they'll run you like a hundred buck or so and they're pretty durable |
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joemerlin |
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hope this will help you get you pointed in the right direction
pvc cages is usually a good place to start http://pvccages.com/id149.htm Herp Cages is another one that is pretty good http://www.herpcages.com/cages/cprice2.html it all depends on what your looking for a cheep cage or a good cage that you can add some stuff to namaste, joe "No matter how little money and how few possesions you own,
having a dog makes you rich." |
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Jeff Godbold |
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Having used BARRS...they are good cages and great for the money. Do you like white, because thats your only option with them. I personally like BARRS and
www.repti-racks.com Great cages!
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Casey Clarke.chondroforum |
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For my display cages....PVC Cages by Jim Scharphorn hands down. His cages look magnificent and won't break the bank for what you get!
http://pvccages.com/id149.htm For my racks. Animal Plastics. They've got a cool lip on each shelf of their racks that makes it much easier pulling out and inserting the tubs. They make some very nice cages as well. http://animalplastics.com/ A lot of folks swear by Habitat Systems. They're made from extruded hollow core PVC. I have three of these cages that I plan to offer for sale in upcoming months for the simple reason that I just prefer Jim's cages better, and for the money you just can't beat them. http://habitatsystemsltd.com/ Had some Boaphiles, will never get another. They're too thin and it takes half a year to get them! My multi-cage stack bowed badly. I also have personal issues with the owner Jeff Ronne as the last order I placed with him 9 weeks had passed (after jerking me around) before he confessed saying he hadn't even started on it. It was a sizeable order. I've heard countless complaints of this same nature with Boaphile cages. He did; however, refund my money immediately after I cancelled the order so kudos to him for that. The other problem I have with Jeff is that he's a legend in his own mind. If you talk to him for any kind of duration he's quick to tell you that every other cage manufacturer out there has stolen his ideas as he's invented everything made with 4 walls and a top to house reptiles. This is quite evident on his site. Get over yourself Jeff! Read here: http://www.boaphileplastics.com/why.html I know of many folks who are happy with Herpcages. They seem to fit the bill for a lot of folks. http://www.herpcages.com/cages/cprice2.html Monster cages is another manufacturer I hear mixed reviews on. http://monster-cages.com/ Repti-racks......that's a touchy one. Having never owned one of their cages I can't offer my own personal opinion on their cages themselves, however, I will say that for every single person I know with one of their cages that like them, I know of 2 people that have had either complaints about their cages or the company. I will personally say that they've got a VERY shady 'Terms and Conditions' page, which is why I will never deal with them. The page is also riddled with all kinds of spelling and gramatical errors. I swear a third grader could do better. Comon'....if you plan to have a successful reputable online business, the least you can do is make sure the advertising and terms on your site is in check. At a bare minimum get spellcheck! http://www.repti-racks.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=53 |
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Auston Horst |
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I hear nothing but good things about www.apcages.com, I'll be buying some cages from them in the not too distant
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-Killer Morelia Keeper-
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ITsBUDLUV |
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I've become a big fan of www.herpenclosures.com, for the money
I love it, I have 4 cages from them and I'm picking up a few more before breeding season, great prices, the 24X24X18 I keep my males in, ran me $170.00,
and their 48X24X12 is only $200.00 everyone else is starting at $250.00 .
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milmoejoe |
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Hi Buddy-
I agree with you herpenclosures makes some very nice cages, BUT a few members have mentioned to me a serious problem with their service currently. There is a long message thread on the BOI about their business having fallen off the radar. (Great prices though, didn't know they built a 24x24x18!) |
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Keith Hamlin.chondroforum |
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There are many choices available as you can see. I use www.pvccages.com for my enclosures. Jim's service and craftsmanship are excellent. I definitely
recommend getting the enclosures disassembled as he recommends. They are really easy to put together. His racks are great also.
Thanks, Keith Hamlin |
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billzuk1 |
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Check out www.repti-racks.com they do an awesome job for breakdowm cages and they are much thcker and durable than
some other pvc cages.There cages are all machined and cut very precise.They also make cages out of HDPE incase pvc is an issue for.I personally use Visions
and stay away from pvc products.
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Jeff Godbold |
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Have any of you heard from the PVC manufacturers about their prices going up as a side result of the oil prices. I love repti-racks cages but they said a 40%
increase might be on the way on their website! Thats rediculous! I didn't see that on Jim's site.
I may have to go back to glass cgaes...I never thought I'd say that but if the prices go. -no trying to hi-jack the thread just thought I'd ask since we're talking about PVC cages. |
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Marcial |
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Unless there is some particular reason you want PVC, I would stay away from it and go with HDPE. I recently purchased a few HDPE cages from Pro-Line and
couldn't be more pleased with them. HDPE is a far superior material to PVC.... it does not have any of the toxic properties, and the best part is that
nothing (urates, feces, etc) can stick to it... it all just easily wipes off with a paper towel.
I there are other cage makers using HDPE, but I believe they use the textured type. Pro-Line uses the slick, non-textured type, which I would imagine is much easier to clean than the textured (no little crevices for stuff to get trapped in). I have some white and black PVC cages as well from several of the manufacturers mentioned above, and keeping them spotless is a real pain, if not impossible. The urates stick and never come completely off the black ones, and feces leave a black mark on the white ones.... if you try to scrub it off with a stiff brush, you end up scratching the PVC and making it worse for the next time. Here is the link to Pro-line: http://www.constrictorsnw.com/cagessupply/aboutprolinecages.html
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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Jeff Godbold |
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Marcial,
I remember you posting pics of your set-up and mentioning they were almost transparent. Can you post them again. I lile the design on the proline cages. Is there any need for a light inside the cage? Did you install your heat panels? |
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Casey Clarke.chondroforum |
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I love the concept behind HDPE and the safety; however, there's just so few vendors out there currently offering these. You're really limited. Maybe in
time. A reputable ball python/boa breeder I know has had a stack of Pro-line's (36x24x14) for quite a while now and the only thing he likes about his is
the ease of cleaning. Marcial is definitely right about that. Stuff wipes right up!
The things we all hate about his Pro-line cages are for one the smooth glossiness of them. They look awful under direct light as you can see every swirl/ scratch mark on them, similar to swirl marks on a dark vehicle in sunlight. The other thing, which was actually something we all thought we'd like is the transparency of the cages. A stack of these cages all having interior fluorescents presents a glow into all of the neighboring cages that just doesn't look right. In addition, because of the glossiness of HDPE you're presented with an awful glare from the light reflecting off of the cage walls when looking in them from different angles. We tried mounting all of the lights in the rear of the stack so the glow would shine through the cage backs. This doesn't work if you're trying to display or showcase your animals. Looked like we were candeling them. Maybe it's just something you have to get used to. I will say this; however, if you have a well illuminated herp room or one with plenty of windows to allow natural light in, these cages would be hard to beat! This is personal opinion I know but the other problem I have with Pro-line and many other manufacturers for that matter are the use of acrylic doors (this is one of the main reasons I'm so fond of Jim's cages). Everyone I know with cages equipped with acrylic doors (myself included) eventually end up with them becoming scratched, having swirl marks, or warping over time. No matter how careful you are, acrylic never stands the test of time like glass. The last issue is that none of the current manufacturers of HDPE I'm aware of offer cages with sliding doors. I for one do not like hinged doors. Again, personal opinion I know. Does anyone know of any other HDPE cage manufacturers? Wonder if Pro-line does custom work like glass sliders..... might have to give them a ring.... |
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Auston Horst |
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Thanks for the link Marcial, those cages do sound pretty darn good.
I'm also happy to hear such a detailed opinion from Casey, always good to have as much info as possible before dropping a few grand on a life long investment, or so we hope. I guess there isn't a perfect cage out there....
-Killer Morelia Keeper-
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Jeff Godbold |
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"I guess there isn't a perfect cage out there.... "
Ding Ding Ding, what do we have for the winner....? |
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Casey Clarke.chondroforum |
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Please understand, as Auston stated, my observations were strictly opinion based. Marcial is very happy with his and with his many years of chondro
experience, you definitely can put some weight behind his word. Especially considering his experience with just about every cage manufacture out there!
Marcial, thanks for your contributions!
I don't want to come across as though I'm bashing Pro-line's products, and please, I apologize if taken that way because they do seem to make a fine product and even provide a strength test on their site. My gripe about acrylic doors and not having glass sliders is strictly my opinion and involves many herp cage manufacturers, not just Pro-line.. I have contacted Pro-line and they also do custom jobs. Very nice on the phone. Another thing I'll give the company credit for is that they stand behind their product as they will repair any cage body that is damaged from normal wear and tear and otherwise, FREE.OF CHARGE! You just have to pay shipping costs back to them to perform the service. How many companies offer this?! Are Pro-line's the perfect cage? Who's to say. They are safer in that they are HDPE and don't have all the toxic properties of PVC, the company stands behind their products, and their prices seem to be pretty reasonable. Once again, I guess it's a matter of opinion. One thing is for sure though, Pro-line is definitely a heavy contender in the sea of herp cages out there. Repair: Any cage damaged over time under normal use can be fixed. The yare pretty difficult to be damaged,but if it does happen we will fix cage bodies for free ( not doors/windows) You just pay shipping. Doors/windows can also be fixed, not for free as these can be damaged per what is used to clean them. Proper cleaning info for acyrlic is available on the cage pages. |
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Marcial |
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Here are pics of mine. I did not install any lights in them. My room is set up like Casey mentions above... lots of ambient lighting and windows. As such, the
Pro-Line's translucent properties was a big selling point for me. It is not as bright as having an individual light in every cage, but is much brighter
than a PVC cage with no lighting would be. I used to have individual lights in every cage, but with so many cages, maintaining them is a real pain, IMO. I
decided that simple is better for me on this issue.
I do agree that the acrylic doors are not the best... I would much prefer glass, and I've been thinking about trying to change them out. The visible scratch marks could be considered an issue as well, but it is a trade off for the ease of cleaning you get with the slick material. I would image that the textured stuff is much better about hiding scratches, but not as easy to clean. Personally, while the scratches are there, they are not that noticeable and don't really bother me that much. I cannot emphasize enough how easy these are to keep clean... it's really amazing the difference between them and PVC.
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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Auston Horst |
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Nice setup Marcial, What sizes are the cages that you are using and is that the kraft indented paper in there?
-Killer Morelia Keeper-
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Casey Clarke.chondroforum |
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Marcial,
Man, I'll give it to you, that setup looks good! I see you've got a bank of Jim's cages right next to them. Good for comparison. Your pics back up exactly what I was saying. I hadn't seen these in a well lit herp room and well now I have! In such a setup as yours, it'd be hard to pass those Pro-lines up. You can even see your pro-panels through the top of the cage. That kind of transparency does have some real advantages. Thanks so much for providing those! |
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Marcial |
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Auston,
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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