Thanks,
Howie
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calking1 |
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I just sent an email to Herpstat but I wanted to run this past people who have used this unit. I set up my new Herpstat 2 weeks ago, and for the first 3 days
set at 87 it ran between 84.2 and 90 .1, I then reset it to 86 and for the last 11days it has been running at between 84.5 and 87.8. Is this normal for
herpstats,or is there a problem with the unit? I am using a Hovabator that I have hatched approx. 30 clutches in over the past few years with a Helix as my
temp. control.
Thanks, Howie |
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Marcial |
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I have many herpstats on my racks and banks of cages, and I really love them. However, I tried using one on an incubator and found that it didn't work
worth a flip. Have you tried experimenting with the power output options?
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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calking1 |
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No I haven't but I'll try.
Thanks Marcial. Howie |
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Marcial |
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When I played with those settings, it helped a little, but still didn't work well enought that I felt comfortable using it. It seems the folks who use
them on very well insulated incubators (like an igloo cooler design) do not have any problems. However, IME, they do not work on an incubator that is not
super insulated like a hovabator or HS.
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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Andrew A1 |
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Hey Marcial, you might be right. I used a Herpstat on an igloo type cooler this season and had no problems whatsoever, but it was very well insulated.
Haven't tried it on a less insulated box. But on the cooler type, it held the temp within a tenth of a degree for 50 days straight until the eggs hatched.
I happen to like the user friendly interface of the Herpstat more, since you can digitally set the temp within a 10th of a degree. I believe the Helix can only
be set within a whole degree.
Andrew |
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Jeff Godbold |
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I have heard that Helix controls do work really well and arestable.
Having said that, everyone's incubator, and facility conditions are a little different. This may make ideal thermostats for one keeper, less ideal for another. My advice, is find what works for you...if temps are not staying consistant with your setup, then send it back and experiment with a few other manufacturers. |
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Jeff Godbold |
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For some reason my response was posted twice... |
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calking1 |
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Jeff, I have been using Helix products I bought the Herpstat after reading good things about them on the MVF. I'm in the process of building a refrigerator
incubator and will try the Herpstat on it. In the mean time I'm going to play with the settings on the Herpstat and see what happens.
Howie |
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davidnj |
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I also use a herpstat on an igloo cooler setup with circulating air via cpu fans and it holds my temps perfectly stable. It would be interesting to get more
data from users with the setups mentioned as well as other incubator designs.
David
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PITDRAGON |
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I`m buiding a wine cooler inc now and planned on using a herpstat.I will let you know as well
Joey |
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Marcial |
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Based on my conversation siwth Dion at Spyder, this is an abbreviated version of what is happening:
The Herpstat is programmed to cut power to 50% max when the temperature of your incubator reaches within a few tenths of the set-point temperature. According to him, this helps reduce the temp "spikes" (when the temps shoot up past the set point and then gradually drop back down to it) that you normally see after opening & closing the incubator. The problem with this is that if your incubator is not very well insulated (like a hovabator, or a HS with a large glass door) only running the heat element at 50% power is not enough make up for the heat loss through the unit, and it will never reach the set-point… it will raise the temp to within a few degrees of set, then cuts power to 50%. At this point, the incubator temps will drop due to the heat loss through the unit, until it drops low enough to kick power back to 100%.... and the cycle keep repeating iteself. A Helix on the other hand, while still a proportional control, will not cut power to 50%... 100% is still available all the way up to the set point. However, if you have a very well insulated unit, this contributes to the temp spikes when you open & close. Hope that made sense.
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com www.chondrolicious.com www.chondrocoalition.com |
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Colorado Riverboy |
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I resolved the issues using the power output options mentioned previously. Low for cooler incubators and high for cabinet style.
Jason Stevens
www.coloradochondros.com |
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