These are two Biaks from last clutch... I did not pose these two, out of 17 in the hatch box they found
each other. They are now both out of the egg and seem to be healthy, despite the lack of eyes.
Weird?
-Shane
                        
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Posts: 108 (06/02/08 18:47:43)
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chondrogirl |
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Posts: 246 (06/02/08 19:25:56)
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I think they're adorable! I hope you're planning on keeping them Shane...
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Bryan Suson |
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Posts: 248 (06/02/08 19:27:53)
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Aww, Poor little guys. Is everybody else doing good?
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tazman1982.chondroforum |
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Posts: 62 (06/02/08 19:49:32) |
Handeling them might be scary. snapping at everything they sense.
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BrianFischer44 |
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Posts: 336 (06/02/08 20:06:41)
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That's just weird! You need to think up some nice names for them... maybe involving Paul...
"I'm short and angry..." -Paul August
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HecTorBar305 |
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Posts: 173 (06/02/08 20:17:18) |
Creepy looking but cute at the same time. Weird!?!?
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Posts: 81 (06/02/08 20:19:42) |
OMG...how sad. They're still beautiful. Anyone else ever had this happen? That's really freaky. Sorry. |
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Chris Haight |
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Posts: 540 (06/02/08 21:05:03)
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Mel, its not all that uncommon. I produced one with one eye last year that fed like a champ. Although it passed away a few months later.
Little Richard 
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davidnj |
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Posts: 959 (06/02/08 21:08:35)
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Shane-
You planning on euthanising them? Not sure what I would do in the situation.
David
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Posts: 110 (06/02/08 21:31:15)
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if you dont euthanize them, id be happy to work with one.
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davidnj |
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Posts: 961 (06/02/08 21:52:37)
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That lat comment almost serves a point. Sure you'd be happy to TAKE one off his hands, but would you pay for one? Wouldn't your money be better spent
on a chondro with eyes?
David
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Rapture |
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Posts: 95 (06/02/08 21:57:53)
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Shouldn't the animals come before the money? IMO, as long as he doesn't want to try to make money off of something that was given to him not to be a
breeder, there's nothing wrong with him offering to take it.
-Diana
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Paul August |
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Posts: 808 (06/03/08 01:17:32)
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Brian,
I currently have 2 baby meraukes from Shane. I'm planning a "revenge naming". You are now involved!!!!!! da da daaaaaaaaaaaa!
Paul August
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pharmabull |
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Posts: 288 (06/03/08 01:36:39)
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davidnj wrote: It's the owner's choice but I'd euthanize this chondro. Embryologic development failed, genetics has been affected.
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Marcial |
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Posts: 1608 (06/03/08 03:40:46)
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While I have no problems in general with culling, I think I would keep those two.... they are interesting to me.
I would be really curious if you ended up with a pair to see if they would breed and the babies came out with eyes. I have always heard that being hatched without an eye(s) is an incubation thing (as opposed to genetic), so it would be cool to prove or disprove this theory.
Marcial Mendez
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Damon Theis |
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Posts: 508 (06/03/08 05:52:33)
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"Clyde" hatched May 20th and has shed and taken it's first meal. (f/t unscented pink) A tad shy, but normal in every other way.
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Blue Ridge Biological |
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Posts: 446 (06/03/08 05:57:40)
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There is a turtle breeder who selectively breeds and offers eye-less hatchling turtles. That's F'd up in my opinion, but then again, selective
breeding has often been used to conserve and maintain other mutations that aren't always beneficial to the animals. Dachshunds are purposely bred to
maintain the genetic equivalent to achondroplasia in humans. Some small dachshunds are very functional, but I have seen some large ones who suffered due to
their mutation. (Marc. S. has some great looking small, functional dachshunds) Some bulldogs must have their puppies delivered via c-section since the heads
of the puppies are selectively bred to be so large. Hairlessness in cats (they are often uncomfortable in anything but very warm environments). . .
I prefer my chondros with eyes. Will I agree with Marcial in that it would be interesting to see if this is genetic or due to incubation issues. Eye anomalies are often said to be due to incubation, but as far as I know this hasn't been tested via breeding. |
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jbeard82 |
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Posts: 18 (06/03/08 06:51:02) |
id get rid of the animal. just my opinion. kinda cool looking though.
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Shane Snyder |
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Posts: 110 (06/03/08 08:16:21)
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I have no plans on euthanising them but don't think I would ever breed them either. They are very strange and i'm sure something could be learned from
them. I hope they do well...
At the very least I have a long, long list of people who would give them a home. -Shane |
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tazman1982.chondroforum |
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Posts: 63 (06/03/08 08:17:28) |
Good luck with them. hopfully they turn out fine.
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Posts: 1867 (06/03/08 08:22:59)
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I love them! (surprise surprise). Thanks for not euthanizing them, Shane. I can't understand why anyone would. As long as they are eating, perching, and
acting like Chondros, why should they be killed? Ok, they have no eyes. Just don't breed them. There is nothing wrong with keeping Chondros as
"pets" with no plans on ever breeding them.
Kim "Wow, that is a hot snake, I would definitely hit that."
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