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Deathisuponyou

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(05/06/08 16:49:55)

MVF Post Breeder

So I bought these polystyrene cages from herpcages.com and i'm not quite sure if it was a good investment or not.... they are 20" cubes and are all white. I am a bit concerned that I made a bad decision in buying all white cages and was wondering if there would be a way to rectify this issue safely or if it is an issue at all? any other thoughts on this caging? I am using herpcages perch holders too have used gorilla glue to secure them and have the PVC pipes cut to fit. Thank you in advance for your kind and informative responses!

Josh

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(05/06/08 17:34:08)

I think you are refering to the "Barrs" cages. Okay so they may be a bit "tight" for medium/large adults but I have 9 of them housing neos through small adults. I've bred GTPs in them and females have laid good clutches in them. I think they are okay and a good value for the money. If you have large snakes, go with something larger (I use Neodeshas for the larger adults) but they are okay for smaller (1kg-ish) animals and are good values for the money. Barrs makes a 24" cube too.

Danny Brotto

Chris Haight

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(05/06/08 19:38:37)

MVFonator

Most of my room is custom BARRS cages, nothing wrong with all white. You know when its dirty, and i'm sure snakes prefer it over a clear cube, where they can see the snakes next to them.

PeterErickson

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(05/06/08 20:15:44)

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Hey Josh, I purchased a 20X20x20 enclosure from herpcages about 2 years ago to house my adult female green tree python and it worked fine. It held humidity decently for a screen top (daily misting). I disliked the cage for reasons outside of the white color which i don't think is a problem, throw some greenery in there and it doesnt look to bright. Everything else on the cage works perfectly after two years use. I don't use mine currently but I would have no problem using it if i purchased another animal. Pete

Deathisuponyou

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(05/21/08 20:14:27)

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On the greenery. what would be a good way to attatch greenery inside the cage without the pythons knocking it to the floor? also a second question a little change of topic my pair of GTPs are about 350 grams. I hear that the female should be at least 1000g and the male should be 750g minimum but in Daytona at the reptile show i heard a guy telling a customer that he could breed them at the size of one of my GTPs... any thoughts?

Chris Haight

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(05/21/08 21:38:33)

MVFonator

For the plant issue, i use live branches, and fake plants. You can cut the fake plants and drill a hole just big enough to stick the shaft of the plants into it. Then as the wood dries out the hole will get tighter, I use new wood and bleach the plants when new animals are place in old cages.

As for breeding size, age is more of a factor. Males as young as 18 months have done the deed, but 2.5-3yrs is a good number to go by. With females it is thought and said they should be 1000g's and 4yrs old before being bred. Certainly some 3.5 year olds have produced as well as some girls in the 800g range.

I like to wait till males are 3yrs,females 4yrs+ and 1200g if possible...but some just don't hit that mark ever. I have 2-3 girls that are now 6yrs old and still have not hit the 1k mark, they will be paired for the first time this Fall. i feel at this point they are as big as they will get(800-900g) and the extra age should help them out. With that said i would never pair a female under 1k if she was not 4.5-5yrs old.

Jeff Godbold

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(05/22/08 06:12:26)

MVFonator

I have 3 BARRS cages and they've always worked really well. As for perches...I'm in the process of switching all my perches over to Crape Merdle (have no idea how to spell that) branches. You can attach greenery by drilling holes in the desired places and using nilon screws (can be found at Lowes), along with complimentary components to hold the screws. They look good with the white cage and won't harm the snake if it rubs up against the screws. Great Cages IMO.

This has not been proven, but I believe that a darker background may be better for the snake. Not saying snakes don't do well in white cages, just saying the darker background might make them feel more secure. Having that said, I'd still use BARRS cages...I like em'

Jeff Godbold
JAG Arboreals
jagreptile@yahoo.com

Last Edited By: Jeff Godbold 05/22/08 06:17:33. Edited 1 times.

Mel4short

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(05/26/08 07:39:28)

I'm fairly new to all this, so my opinion is just that. If the white bothers you with its "starkness", cover the interior with contact paper. I currently have a granite acrylic cage from glasscages.com and I didn't care for the shiny insides. Too reflective. So, Maxwell style, I covered the inside with contact paper, sealed all the edges with silicone, added maple branches, a live potted plant, and fake greenery attatched with suction cups to the walls. Turned out pretty nice so I'm working on my next cage for my large female and will order a larger divided cage for my two smaller males. You can get contact paper from Aubuchon Hardware. Go to hardwarestore.com and look under housewares. They have lots of choices. For perches, I try to use hardwoods such as Maple or Oak. There are some woods you should stay away from, besides the obvious evergreens, I can't tell you offhand what those are. Caging seems to be an ongoing issue!

As for the breeding, have yet to try it myself so I can't help you there. I take all my cues from these guys...their experience is priceless.

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