Bad news... and some good.

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feeds@yuku.com (Rico Walder) — Fri, 02 May 2008 06:32:19 GMT

Thanks everyone,

There certainly are ups and downs working with these things.

Meg, I'm fairly certain that there was no trauma or necropsy error involved with this girls demise. She hadn't been handled in a long time so unless the male (he's tiny compared to her) gripped too tight while copulating I doubt any damage was done. The left ovary appeared to be in good shape but the right on the other hand was odd looking.... almost as though there were sections of...

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feeds@yuku.com (Sony Raju) — Fri, 02 May 2008 06:29:48 GMT

im sorry to hear about ur loss rico.

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feeds@yuku.com (MarlboroMan) — Fri, 02 May 2008 05:28:48 GMT

Sorry about your girl Rico. At least there was some good news though right?

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feeds@yuku.com (Kim Heller) — Fri, 02 May 2008 05:16:13 GMT

Heartache and happiness in the same post. These amazing animals certainly do have amazing ups and devastating downs. Thank you for sharing this with us, Rico.

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feeds@yuku.com (Kenneth Diehl) — Fri, 02 May 2008 04:04:52 GMT

Sorry to hear about your loss, at least you have some good news to share. On the topic of the yolk development...can it actually happen? Again..sorry.

Ken Diehl
San Antonio

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feeds@yuku.com (Jeff Godbold) — Fri, 02 May 2008 02:35:12 GMT

Wow Rico,

Sorry to hear about that...she was a reall "looker". Congrats on the mite-phase though...those things are HOT!

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feeds@yuku.com (Kirk Mills) — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:57:06 GMT

Rico, last year when I was breeding my female canary she was well Friday night and on Saturday morning started looking like something was not right and within a few hours was died… It happen so damn fast I was dumfounded… The necropsy of my canary looked much like your female… I lost the photo on a hard drive that crash a few month back.. I never could find out what happen… I'm so sorry for...

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feeds@yuku.com (geckos70) — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:52:39 GMT

Congrads to both you and Chris, Rico. Sorry about that girl...she was probably one of my favorite animals in your collection. As far as the necropsy goes, that is the first time I have ever seen anything like that. If it is ok with you, I would like to show the photos to a pathologist friend to see if he can offer a plausible explanation.

Michael

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feeds@yuku.com (Andrew A1) — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:48:26 GMT

Oh man Rico - that really sucks big time. Really sorry to see that. She was incredible looking. Hope you get some answers.

On the flip side - best of luck with those neos with Chris. What a fantastic pairing (I have to say it here because Chris bamboozled me on the other post).

That male is incredible.

Andrew

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feeds@yuku.com (joemerlin) — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:44:29 GMT

that male is insane..
:_(
i am very sorry to hear about your girl.
Namaste
Joe

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feeds@yuku.com (davidnj) — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:40:06 GMT

That's a shame. I can't imagine being able to detach myself from an animal to the degree of being able to cut them open like that. I guess with the number of hours and animals you've got under your belt it enables you to approach things a bit differently than the small time hobbyist like myself. Good luck with the babies. That male could be on a poster for everything needed to turn snake enthusiasts into chondro addicts.

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feeds@yuku.com (aaron florian) — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:01:42 GMT

Wow. That male is beautiful. Sorry about the loss of your girlie.

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feeds@yuku.com (Cathy Maynard) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:47:10 GMT

Oh that really sucks Rico, she was such a beautiful snake, so sorry for your loss. Very interesting necropsy pics though I didn't realize that the yolks were as "liquid" as they appear there, I wonder what happened too. Thank you for sharing.

On the good note, congrats on the hatchlings!!

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feeds@yuku.com (Paul August) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:43:20 GMT

Sorry for the bad news. I can see, even in death that she was amazing. Was the other oviduct punctured? A blown egg should throw yolk into the oviduct. But she has Yolk in the body cavity? I'm just thinking there has to be a blowout between the reproductive tract and the body cavity.

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feeds@yuku.com (MegF42) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:34:00 GMT

That's too bad. Are you certain that the yolk wasn't due to handling or while opening the cavity? It's really odd. I'll look thru my surgical books and see if there's any mention of such a thing.. Condolences...she was a beauty.

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feeds@yuku.com (Julian Garcia) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:31:50 GMT

Wow... man, thats just awful... awful awful awful.

I'm really glad that pairing worked with you and Chris. That females is amazing..

Congrats and sorry

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feeds@yuku.com (Frols) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:24:16 GMT

Rico...that is the most ironic thing that has ever happened to me!

You have my deepest condolences.

Rolo

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feeds@yuku.com (HecTorBar305) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:15:50 GMT

Man!!! That sucks big time. I'm so sorry about your loss. I hope the hatchlings make up for your lost.

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feeds@yuku.com (Chris Dunlap) — Thu, 01 May 2008 15:51:24 GMT

Rico I'm sorry to hear about your loss.

Congrats to you and Chris on those hatchlings... I know they are going to be awesome.

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feeds@yuku.com (Damon Theis) — Thu, 01 May 2008 15:30:26 GMT

Sorry Rico. That sucks. On a lighter note, that male is unreal. Love everything about him.

Bad news... and some good.

feeds@yuku.com (Rico Walder) — Thu, 01 May 2008 15:22:08 GMT

Hey Everyone,

Yesterday had it's ups and downs. First the good news.... The project Chris Haight and I had going on this year produced some outstanding little hatchlings. Not as many as we had hopes for but it's better than nothing. Here is a picture of the sire, I'll let Chris post pictures of the dam.

Next, the bad news! This was my...