Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

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feeds@yuku.com (john E blue) — Sun, 04 May 2008 11:46:52 GMT

Willbur,

Thanks for the flexible PVC info. I think that adds a lot of clarity to the issue. Also, this Bolland fellow sounds like an awesome guy! Seems (by your description) nice, honest and probably gets more Tang than an astronaut.

Rock on.

--jb

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Blue Ridge Biological) — Sat, 03 May 2008 07:35:15 GMT

Yesterday, I received an angry (possibly drunken) phone call regarding this thread. I won't say his name but his last name rhymes with "Bolland" and is a synonym for the Netherlands He demanded to know where the info regarding the offgasing/leaching of PVC was coming from. Fearing for the safety of my family (he knows where I live) I dug into this some more. There are a...

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (milmoejoe) — Fri, 02 May 2008 09:53:44 GMT

Hi Will,

I definitely don't mean to rag on you or anyone else! I think the issue here is just simply being aware of the issue and making a switch to a safer material with future enclsoures (much like the compact flourescent light bulb deal).

I was an still am in the same boat as you in terms of looking for acceptable caging. Right now i've only got a single male, but more on the way, so I want to look into the future without cutting corners. It has to be...

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Julian Garcia) — Fri, 02 May 2008 09:36:11 GMT

I'm no doctor or chemist so i'll let you guys deal with the pvc issue... But ascetically the Boaphile cages have to be one of the most unattractive cages i have ever seen. They are an absolute eyesore. I would rather my chondro in a tub than one. He needs a serious redesign.. The racks are nice, though.

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Blue Ridge Biological) — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:07:55 GMT

No offense taken. It's a topic worth discussing. I was looking at the PVC racks because the snakes would be housed within tubs in that rack as opposed to being housed in the PVC itself. Being that the tubs are polypropylene (a plastic shown to not leach or offgas like other plastics and is made without chlorine), I felt using them in a rack was an option worth considering. However, the top of the tub would still be the PVC rack and the air circulating around the tubs would exposed to...

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Ben Team) — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:05:15 GMT

These 'dime a dozen' resp. infections predate the widespread use of the torched pvc perches. I agree thought that we need to take a serious look at some of the plastics we use....

Glass-
...heavy...breakable...pain in the ass....but inert, no?....

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (milmoejoe) — Fri, 02 May 2008 06:33:42 GMT

Will, I'm sorry to ruin your thread, but I (and probably just me) think this is a serious issue that needs to get rectified!!

I am by no means a toxicologist or chemist (in fact I hate it), but it doesn't take a wiz to understand that PVC (chlorine) is potentially very unsafe...especially when its burned!! Then heat it up and spray it with water.... !?!!?!?!!

...

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feeds@yuku.com (Marcial) — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:01:38 GMT

I would look into Pro-line Cages. They are made from HDPE instead of PVC. I have some large boaphile cages for my carpet pythons, and am not a big fan of the pvc material used to make them... it is fairly porous and next to impossible to get urates off of it. Of course, if you are getting a rack, that may not be an issue for you.

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Blue Ridge Biological) — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:53:00 GMT

milmoejoe wrote:
I'm curious to know how you're researching volatile off-gassing yet still buying into it!

That's certainly a consideration. I'm looking into glass options too, but weighing all of the options.

Re: Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (milmoejoe) — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:31:41 GMT

I'm curious to know how you're researching volatile off-gassing yet still buying into it!

Opinions on Boaphile cages/racks?

feeds@yuku.com (Blue Ridge Biological) — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:26:23 GMT

I need to bump some GTPs up to larger housing. Space is a premium here so I am looking at trying some of Boaphile's "Arboreal Racks". Does anyone here have experience using Boaphile products? If so, what's your opinion of them?

Thanks.

Will